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Date: 1998-10-26
Linus findet Intel nett-.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- updating 98.10.25/1 Linus findet Intel nett Es hat wohl des Vorfeldes des Prozesses "Das Volk der USA gegen Micro/soft" bedurft - alle reissen sich um Linux, nur einer bleibt bemerkenswert unterkühlt. "In den Gesprächen mit Intel vor einem Jahr" sagt Linus Torvalds, Initiator des freien Betriebssystems, das über 50 Prozent Marktanteil in der Tranche Webserver hält, "war Linux noch ein dirty word. Jetzt sind sie sehr positiv eingestellt, ist das nicht nett?" Der Verlagsriese IDG, zu dem auch die deutschsprachigen Computerwelt- und -woche gehören, hat wie angekündigt eine Linuxwelt eingerichtet. -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- Interview: Robert McMillan LinuxWorld: It seems like there are a lot of very rapid changes happening in the Linux world these days. Oracle is porting its products to Linux; Intel is now an investor in Red Hat. In broad strokes, what do you think is happening? Torvalds: I think we've just reached critical mass in one market, and that's showing. And that we'll continue to see this kind of situation. But at the same time, I don't see this really impacting Linux in any technical sense -- which is really all I ever cared about. Everybody who even wants to get into the Linux market -- if they want to get into the Linux market, it's because they like Linux at some level, which means they want to do the right thing. So I don't see anybody getting into the market for any negative reason. I don't think that Linux per se will change. You have to realize that I was more nervous when Slackware came along -- somebody who was selling Linux for money, which was much more of a shock. I was kind of nervous. I thought it was a good idea, but I was kind of nervous. But it just turned out to be so good. I mean there was such a synergy between having commercial people who wanted to make it easy to install and technical people who wanted to do the right thing technically that I'm not worried anymore when something like the Intel/Netscape announcement comes along. Because I just don't see how we can lose. That's why I'm sitting here calmly sipping my Coke. LinuxWorld: What do you make of Intel and Netscape's recent decision to invest in Red Hat? Torvalds: I think that the latest flurry is just a small part of everything that has been going on lately. I mean Intel buying into Red Hat is just a sign of the times. It's more of a result of previous changes. So we're seeing new possibilities in things like Intel getting more involved. Having a big company like Intel gives you clout with other big companies. Not just credibility, but if Intel wants to do something they have the possibility of actually talking to other companies and saying, "Hey, can you please do it this way." It opens a few new doors that Linux didn't have open [before]. ... Some of them do their own hardware, and they get to control their own hardware manufacturing. But the rest -- the ones who tend to run on Intel hardware -- have such a small market that they are essentially a nonissue. And that's where Linux comes in, for two reasons. One is that Linux does have market share. It's not a large market by PC standards, but it's still a noticeable market. And the other is because Linux is so open, they can see the possibility that you would have other Unix companies that would just decide, "OK, if Linux does this then maybe we can do it too." Which they couldn't have done before for political reasons. IBM and Sun wouldn't ever agree. If anyone -- HP -- goes to the Unified Driver Interface, that has no impact on Solaris, because HP wouldn't make it available. I'm not saying it's going to happen. I'm saying where the logic is. Sun made a lot of standards like this. NFS is an example of an open standard -- I mean the standard wasn't technically all there. NFS is not a great network file system. But it was good enough, and it was very, very widely available. Standards really do not come from committees. That's not how a single good standard has ever come about. It's market share forcing something to be used. Linux in the enterprise LinuxWorld: What is Red Hat getting from their deal with Intel? Torvalds: When you want to enter the corporate market, you want to have credibility. And that's what they're getting; they're getting credibility. And you also need to have products to sell into this space. And they alluded to a product strategy. And I bet part of it is just selling support. For example, when you buy a CD right now, you can buy a CD for $50 and you get unlimited licenses. But most companies -- for completely inexplicable reasons -- think that is wrong. They want to buy 100 licenses. If they can't buy that with Linux, they're unhappy. So what I assume Red Hat is going to do is they're going to sell 100-license systems where the licenses are not so much the software licenses per se, but the support contracts. So a big company can say, "OK we'll pay $100,000 a year for this 1,000-user license, which includes support on a 24x7 basis. LinuxWorld: As you add multiprocessor support into the Linux Kernel, it seems there are a lot of opportunities for Linux systems vendors. Torvalds: I don't think Red Hat is going to do that. I think you're going to find more traditional hardware companies doing this. I mean, you already find places like VA Research, which wants to be big. They integrate the hardware and the software; they sell you a box that has been stress tested, it has the applications on it (like Oracle and Apache), they take it to your business location, they turn it on and they support it. full interview http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1998-10/lw-10- torvalds.html -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- - -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- edited by published on: 1998-10-26 comments to office@quintessenz.at subscribe Newsletter - -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- 
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