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Date: 1999-08-14
linux vs win: Rant 2er Script/gelehrter-.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- rabiat/non/platonischer Dialog zweier Script/gelehrter über die technischen Grundlagen des momentanen Zeitalters, die programm/philosophischen Hintergründe Sanctae Trinitatis Windows, Unix und Mac absolviert von Woodchuck alias djv aka Dave [answer] und Ranger [quote]. Eine der Schlüsselstellen preist die Genialität Microsofts nachgerade vernichtend. Absolviert auf der Liste der DefCon Hacker, einem Peripatos, wo Dekonstruktion als re-compiling selbverständlich ist. Während im Peripatos [Säulengang - wörtlich: peri = herum; patos= das Gehen] Denker die Gedanken beim Herumgehen produzierten, entstehen sie hier literal: Räumlich entfernt und noch immer Zeit verzögert. Aber nicht nachträglich mittels Tontafel und Gedächtnis nieder- & schöngeschrieben, sondern unterlegt mit fernen Donnern eines aufziehenden Gewitters, wie sie im echten Leben üblich sind. -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- Subject: Re: linux vs. win To: ranger0@earthling.net (Ranger) Date sent: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 09:59:38 -0400 (EDT) Copies to: djv@bedford.net, dc-stuff@dis.org Well, certain of the haxorly inclined did have Suns and Apollos in their garrets. At some point, the cost of low-end Sun became quite competitive with high-end PC + full development software to equal the usual Unix bundle. This point was unremarked by the marketplace, though, and especially by M$-whoring mags like "PC World". It's the fundamental curse of our times: Microsoft is a fantastic corporation, with brilliant management. Their only shortcoming is that they don't know shit about operating systems or application software. Everything else, brilliant. It's a miracle, like discovering that the Yugo is "Car of the Century". > hardware support and gaming capability of Linux is brought up to speed it > will have a hard time invading the desktop of john q. public. Win9x sucks > ass, but the common luddite has no concern or idea, he wants to play "Duke > Nukem" and have all the software and internet all bundled up, and a nice > little restore CD image to use when he inevitably fucks it all up. I agree. The word "desktop" means "interactive" (i.e. dumb terminal) to me, but "standalone box" to you. I ran Unix on a 286 PC, actually. Microport Sys VR2. It really sucked. (Circa 1986). A way to bring Linux to every home in the moneyed world: *) Do your improvements (which boil down to plug and play) (I consider any Unix/Linux installation to be easier than any Windoze one, and that it has been that way for years. Reason: "A windoze installation never ends"... it requires endless tweaking, often reinstallation.) *) Market a righteous X terminal at a $250 retail, that would network over power lines. (Or some other wireless LAN. Details irrelevant). *) Software: multiplayer games, and for the paranoid, all kinds of snoopy-ware to make sure than Heather and Cody aren't looking at any pr0n. *) Embed the OS in ROM, on something idiot-proof pluggable like PCMCIA. > > The virus exists because M$ OSes are pieces of shit. Car door locks > > are traditionally pieces of shit, hence the existence of the Slim Jim. > > I never said they weren't pieces of shit. Although certain flavors have I don't accuse you of it. My thesis is that the *form* of the most common "nasty" M$ attack is the virus, for the same reason that the Slim Jim is the most common attack on car door locks. If Unix were as widespread as M$, there would be more attacks against it. Actually the gaping hole in Unix is probably X. X has many of the swiss-cheese features of Windoze -- resulting from being designed for an open environment free of malice, and then having security shoe-horned in, under and around it later on. > some improvements over others, but there is still _a_lot_ to be desired. I > also agree that it has gotten to the point that trying to correct it now > would be damn near impossible. However, I'll continue to contend, if that > shitty little OS with the same amount of holes and exploits weren't so > prevalent the amount of virii would be significantly smaller. The MAC OS True. If rabbits weren't a problem, there wouldn't be foxes and .22 rifles. > has a ton of shitty holes and problems (8.5, 8.6 are about as bloated as MS, > and crash as regularly), but the number of virii and hacks for the MAC are > far eclipsed by those for MS. > > Damn, these things never fail to turn into a jihad, reason #1 why the > outlook conversion is now filtered..... Oh, I'm not jihading. If someone takes it that way, that's an error. Dave relayed by dc-stuff@dis.org -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- - -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- edited by published on: 1999-08-14 comments to office@quintessenz.at subscribe Newsletter - -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- 
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